Tom,

"But regarding the message box from KFLOP.  Normally you would be running GCode so the Execute button should be disabled.  Isn't that the case?" - Apparently not. Like I said, I was able to continue execution while the toolchange dialog was still on-screen. I'll try to re-verify tomorrow.

I'll try using the MSG comment as well.

Regards,
Ray L.

--- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Ray,
>  
> I can't imagine how the PWM wouldn't change instantly.
>  
> There is a way to put up a message box directly from GCode which would be much more direct than asking KFlop to request it.  It is of the form:
>  
> (MSG,Please put in a tool)
>  
> But regarding the message box from KFLOP.  Normally you would be running GCode so the Execute button should be disabled.  Isn't that the case?
>  
> Regards
> TK
>  
>  
>
> ________________________________
> From: himykabibble <jagboy@...>
> To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 3:56 PM
> Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: Spindle Control Question....
>
>
>  
> Tom,
>
> There are two relay outputs (CW/CCW), programmed for M3-M5, and a PWM for the speed. The PWM code does nothing but program PWM0 based on the value passed from KMotion. I'll see if I can put a scope on the PWM output tomorrow, and see what's happening.
>
> I noticed something else today that has me confused. My M6 program puts up a dialog box, to prompt me to put the proper too in the spindle. Dismiss the dialog, and the program continues. But I found that hitting Execute will also continue the program, leaving the dialog on-screen. It seems to be just cosmetic, but is there a way to disable Execute while the dialog is up?
>
> Regards,
> Ray L.
>
> --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Ray,
> >  
> > How are you controlling your Spindle?  There should be no ramping unless you programmed some in.
> >  
> > Regards
> > TK
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: himykabibble <jagboy@>
> > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 1:49 PM
> > Subject: [DynoMotion] Spindle Control Question....
> >
> >
> >  
> > My spindle is taking quite a but longer to come up to speed than it did under Mach3/Smoothstepper - about 5 seconds now. Ever with each spindle command followed by a "G4 P3.0", the tool is hitting the part well before the spindle is fully up to speed. Is there a ramping parameter somewhere?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ray L.
> >
>

Brad,

I haven't touched the VFD since I first installed it three years ago.

Regards,
Ray L.

--- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Brad Murry <bradodarb@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Ray,
>
>
>
> For what it's worth we use several types of VFD's at work and nearly all of
> them have a ramp parameter is it possible this value has changed at all?
>
>
>
> -Brad Murry
>
>
>
> From: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of himykabibble
> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 4:56 PM
> To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: Spindle Control Question....
>
>
>
>
>
> Tom,
>
> There are two relay outputs (CW/CCW), programmed for M3-M5, and a PWM for
> the speed. The PWM code does nothing but program PWM0 based on the value
> passed from KMotion. I'll see if I can put a scope on the PWM output
> tomorrow, and see what's happening.
>
> I noticed something else today that has me confused. My M6 program puts up a
> dialog box, to prompt me to put the proper too in the spindle. Dismiss the
> dialog, and the program continues. But I found that hitting Execute will
> also continue the program, leaving the dialog on-screen. It seems to be just
> cosmetic, but is there a way to disable Execute while the dialog is up?
>
> Regards,
> Ray L.
>
> --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com <mailto:DynoMotion%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> Tom Kerekes <tk@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Ray,
> > Â
> > How are you controlling your Spindle? There should be no ramping unless
> you programmed some in.
> > Â
> > Regards
> > TK
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: himykabibble <jagboy@>
> > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com <mailto:DynoMotion%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 1:49 PM
> > Subject: [DynoMotion] Spindle Control Question....
> >
> >
> > Â
> > My spindle is taking quite a but longer to come up to speed than it did
> under Mach3/Smoothstepper - about 5 seconds now. Ever with each spindle
> command followed by a "G4 P3.0", the tool is hitting the part well before
> the spindle is fully up to speed. Is there a ramping parameter somewhere?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ray L.
> >
>

Tom,

What happened with the MessageBox is, I have a pendant button that issues an Execute. I had pressed that button while the MessageBox was on-screen. So the Execute button on-screen does get disabled, but the Execute function does not.

I'm going to go try (MSG,xxx) now.

BTW - Just my two cents worth on KMotionCNC, as a machine controller - Functionally, it is fine, if a bit limited. It would be nice to have display of RPM, feedrate, etc. Overall, I find it not terribly well-suited to, at least, the way I operate my machine. So many of the on-screen features are so small as to be illegible from any distance more than a very few feet. I control my machine almost entirely from a pendant, and may be 4-5 feet from the display much of the time. But, when I hit an M0, for example, I have to walk over to the screen to see what it wants. About the only thing I CAN see from more than 3-4 feet away is the DROs (and this is with a 20" monitor!). The MDI text is so tiny I have to be VERY close to be able to read it at all. Seems to me a machine controller should aim to be VERY legible, even from a reasonable distance, as it's not always convenient to stand right next to the display when doing setups. Ideally, controls should be large enough to be hard to miss, even with a touchscreen. I've started making modifications to the resource file, but that is a pretty painful process, and it looks like code changes are required to make many of the changes I'd like (like MDI test size). JMHO. I am really enjoying having a machine that operates predictably and reliably for the first time in a long time!

Regards,
Ray L.

--- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, "himykabibble" <jagboy@...> wrote:
>
> Tom,
>
> "But regarding the message box from KFLOP.  Normally you would be running GCode so the Execute button should be disabled.  Isn't that the case?" - Apparently not. Like I said, I was able to continue execution while the toolchange dialog was still on-screen. I'll try to re-verify tomorrow.
>
> I'll try using the MSG comment as well.
>
> Regards,
> Ray L.
>
> --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Ray,
> >  
> > I can't imagine how the PWM wouldn't change instantly.
> >  
> > There is a way to put up a message box directly from GCode which would be much more direct than asking KFlop to request it.  It is of the form:
> >  
> > (MSG,Please put in a tool)
> >  
> > But regarding the message box from KFLOP.  Normally you would be running GCode so the Execute button should be disabled.  Isn't that the case?
> >  
> > Regards
> > TK
> >  
> >  
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: himykabibble <jagboy@>
> > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 3:56 PM
> > Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: Spindle Control Question....
> >
> >
> >  
> > Tom,
> >
> > There are two relay outputs (CW/CCW), programmed for M3-M5, and a PWM for the speed. The PWM code does nothing but program PWM0 based on the value passed from KMotion. I'll see if I can put a scope on the PWM output tomorrow, and see what's happening.
> >
> > I noticed something else today that has me confused. My M6 program puts up a dialog box, to prompt me to put the proper too in the spindle. Dismiss the dialog, and the program continues. But I found that hitting Execute will also continue the program, leaving the dialog on-screen. It seems to be just cosmetic, but is there a way to disable Execute while the dialog is up?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ray L.
> >
> > --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Ray,
> > >  
> > > How are you controlling your Spindle?  There should be no ramping unless you programmed some in.
> > >  
> > > Regards
> > > TK
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: himykabibble <jagboy@>
> > > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 1:49 PM
> > > Subject: [DynoMotion] Spindle Control Question....
> > >
> > >
> > >  
> > > My spindle is taking quite a but longer to come up to speed than it did under Mach3/Smoothstepper - about 5 seconds now. Ever with each spindle command followed by a "G4 P3.0", the tool is hitting the part well before the spindle is fully up to speed. Is there a ramping parameter somewhere?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Ray L.
> > >
> >
>

OK, Tried the "(MSG,xxx)", and that works much better. One thing you should consider adding - In Mach3, when an M00 is encountered, it will display the message on the (very visible) status line, and execution can be continued by hitting CycleStart. With KMotionCNC, I now have some stops (M00s) which require an Execute to continue, and some whic require a mouse click or key press to continue. It would be really nice if Execute could do both, so allow Execute to dismiss the MSG dialog, in place of clicking OK.

Regards,
Ray L.

--- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, "himykabibble" <jagboy@...> wrote:
>
> Tom,
>
> What happened with the MessageBox is, I have a pendant button that issues an Execute. I had pressed that button while the MessageBox was on-screen. So the Execute button on-screen does get disabled, but the Execute function does not.
>
> I'm going to go try (MSG,xxx) now.
>
> BTW - Just my two cents worth on KMotionCNC, as a machine controller - Functionally, it is fine, if a bit limited. It would be nice to have display of RPM, feedrate, etc. Overall, I find it not terribly well-suited to, at least, the way I operate my machine. So many of the on-screen features are so small as to be illegible from any distance more than a very few feet. I control my machine almost entirely from a pendant, and may be 4-5 feet from the display much of the time. But, when I hit an M0, for example, I have to walk over to the screen to see what it wants. About the only thing I CAN see from more than 3-4 feet away is the DROs (and this is with a 20" monitor!). The MDI text is so tiny I have to be VERY close to be able to read it at all. Seems to me a machine controller should aim to be VERY legible, even from a reasonable distance, as it's not always convenient to stand right next to the display when doing setups. Ideally, controls should be large enough to be hard to miss, even with a touchscreen. I've started making modifications to the resource file, but that is a pretty painful process, and it looks like code changes are required to make many of the changes I'd like (like MDI test size). JMHO. I am really enjoying having a machine that operates predictably and reliably for the first time in a long time!
>
> Regards,
> Ray L.
>
> --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, "himykabibble" <jagboy@> wrote:
> >
> > Tom,
> >
> > "But regarding the message box from KFLOP.  Normally you would be running GCode so the Execute button should be disabled.  Isn't that the case?" - Apparently not. Like I said, I was able to continue execution while the toolchange dialog was still on-screen. I'll try to re-verify tomorrow.
> >
> > I'll try using the MSG comment as well.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ray L.
> >
> > --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Ray,
> > >  
> > > I can't imagine how the PWM wouldn't change instantly.
> > >  
> > > There is a way to put up a message box directly from GCode which would be much more direct than asking KFlop to request it.  It is of the form:
> > >  
> > > (MSG,Please put in a tool)
> > >  
> > > But regarding the message box from KFLOP.  Normally you would be running GCode so the Execute button should be disabled.  Isn't that the case?
> > >  
> > > Regards
> > > TK
> > >  
> > >  
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: himykabibble <jagboy@>
> > > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 3:56 PM
> > > Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: Spindle Control Question....
> > >
> > >
> > >  
> > > Tom,
> > >
> > > There are two relay outputs (CW/CCW), programmed for M3-M5, and a PWM for the speed. The PWM code does nothing but program PWM0 based on the value passed from KMotion. I'll see if I can put a scope on the PWM output tomorrow, and see what's happening.
> > >
> > > I noticed something else today that has me confused. My M6 program puts up a dialog box, to prompt me to put the proper too in the spindle. Dismiss the dialog, and the program continues. But I found that hitting Execute will also continue the program, leaving the dialog on-screen. It seems to be just cosmetic, but is there a way to disable Execute while the dialog is up?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Ray L.
> > >
> > > --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Ray,
> > > >  
> > > > How are you controlling your Spindle?  There should be no ramping unless you programmed some in.
> > > >  
> > > > Regards
> > > > TK
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: himykabibble <jagboy@>
> > > > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 1:49 PM
> > > > Subject: [DynoMotion] Spindle Control Question....
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  
> > > > My spindle is taking quite a but longer to come up to speed than it did under Mach3/Smoothstepper - about 5 seconds now. Ever with each spindle command followed by a "G4 P3.0", the tool is hitting the part well before the spindle is fully up to speed. Is there a ramping parameter somewhere?
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Ray L.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>